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Post by Yin-Yang on Tue May 22, 2018 6:02 pm

In a way relevant to the topic;

What do you guys think of this Mr. Nagananda
He sounds having something worth for the betterment of people here; doesn't he?
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Post by slstock on Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:50 am

WORK ETHICS

In Sri Lanka have you seen people at their jobs

a) not smiling or be courteous
b) delaying purposefully their task
c) they do their job as it if they are doing a favor to us
d) wasting time on Phone/Tablet / Facebook while not attending to customers
e) not doing their job, until a bribe is indicated


In many so called developed nations

a) People take their job as a National duty
b) many will smile and be courteous to you
c) they will do their job efficiently
d) if they fail to do their job, calling a Manager or a supervisor will freak them out*
e) If the job doesnt' get done, their co worker will pressure them or say customers are waiting.

* in SL many Managers and Supervisor seems to be part of the same gang. I read recently about a Senior Executive at Sathosa , selling Ganja to school students . Fantastic) . I read an article connecting Drug dealers and Under world gangs to
Politicians , who protects them


So what are your "General" " experiences in Sri Lanka at

a) Government offices
b) Banks
c) Supermarkets
d) or any place to that matter

Someone told me SL Passport office is now starting to be very efficient? Is it true ?

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:59 am

Spot on.
(I have been trying to convince some of the big supermarket chains to allow auditing them by an outside entity and hitherto with no success).

slstock wrote:WORK ETHICS

In Sri Lanka have you seen people at their jobs

a) not smiling or be courteous
b) delaying purposefully their task
c) they do their job as it if they are doing a favor to us
d) wasting time on Phone/Tablet / Facebook while not attending to customers
e) not doing their job, until a bribe is indicated


In many so called developed nations

a) People take their job as a National duty
b) many will smile and be courteous to you
c) they will do their job efficiently
d) if they fail to do their job, calling a Manager or a supervisor will freak them out*
e) If the job doesnt' get done, their co worker will pressure them or say customers are waiting.

* in SL many  Managers and Supervisor seems to be part of the same gang. I read recently about a Senior Executive at Sathosa , selling Ganja to school students . Fantastic) . I read an article connecting  Drug dealers and Under world gangs to
Politicians , who protects them  


So what are your "General" " experiences in Sri Lanka at

a) Government offices
b) Banks
c) Supermarkets
d) or any place to that matter

Someone told me SL Passport office is now starting to be very efficient? Is it true ?
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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:09 am

He is a bigger crook than most other guys we have seen hitherto. Very Happy
Yin-Yang wrote:In a way relevant to the topic;

What do you guys think of this Mr. Nagananda
He sounds having something worth for the betterment of people here; doesn't he?
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Post by malanp on Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:16 pm

can you give reasons why you are saying he is a crook??..

I dont know about him but having an impression he is a good guy.. there may be a dark side that we dont know.

කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:He is a bigger crook than most other guys we have seen hitherto.  Very Happy
Yin-Yang wrote:In a way relevant to the topic;

What do you guys think of this Mr. Nagananda
He sounds having something worth for the betterment of people here; doesn't he?

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:19 pm

We had a long discussion about him on another social media forum and when I said this there, many were surprised.


  • He was the pet of many well-known smugglers in the country one time,


  • They fell off, when he became too demanding,


  • That led to him was given death threats & customs decided to issue him a revolver to protect himself


  • He was involved in human trafficking that leads to his own wife losing her job and his own brother ended in police custody


  • The list is long and he is a crook and he is a nut case not to be trusted


  • He was brought in by MR and entered the fray on  their looted money, with the intention of splitting the middle class educate Colombian votes usually go against MR clan.




malanp wrote:can you give reasons why you are saying he is a crook??..

I dont know about him but having an impression he is a good guy.. there may be a dark side that we dont know.

කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:He is a bigger crook than most other guys we have seen hitherto.  Very Happy
Yin-Yang wrote:In a way relevant to the topic;

What do you guys think of this Mr. Nagananda
He sounds having something worth for the betterment of people here; doesn't he?
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Post by malanp on Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:33 pm

Thank you Kithsiri.

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:53 am

I ran a Poll on this issue on another site and I am yet to get any disagreement vote on the poll there. Very Happy
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Spot on.
(I have been trying to convince some of the big supermarket chains to allow auditing them by an outside entity and hitherto with no success).

slstock wrote:WORK ETHICS

In Sri Lanka have you seen people at their jobs

a) not smiling or be courteous
b) delaying purposefully their task
c) they do their job as it if they are doing a favor to us
d) wasting time on Phone/Tablet / Facebook while not attending to customers
e) not doing their job, until a bribe is indicated


In many so called developed nations

a) People take their job as a National duty
b) many will smile and be courteous to you
c) they will do their job efficiently
d) if they fail to do their job, calling a Manager or a supervisor will freak them out*
e) If the job doesnt' get done, their co worker will pressure them or say customers are waiting.

* in SL many  Managers and Supervisor seems to be part of the same gang. I read recently about a Senior Executive at Sathosa , selling Ganja to school students . Fantastic) . I read an article connecting  Drug dealers and Under world gangs to
Politicians , who protects them  


So what are your "General" " experiences in Sri Lanka at

a) Government offices
b) Banks
c) Supermarkets
d) or any place to that matter

Someone told me SL Passport office is now starting to be very efficient? Is it true ?
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Post by Ethical Trader on Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:26 am

Interesting news.
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:We had a long discussion about him on another social media forum and when I said this there, many were surprised.


  • He was the pet of many well-known smugglers in the country one time,


  • They fell off, when he became too demanding,


  • That led to him was given death threats & customs decided to issue him a revolver to protect himself


  • He was involved in human trafficking that leads to his own wife losing her job and his own brother ended in police custody


  • The list is long and he is a crook and he is a nut case not to be trusted


  • He was brought in by MR and entered the fray on  their looted money, with the intention of splitting the middle class educate Colombian votes usually go against MR clan.




malanp wrote:can you give reasons why you are saying he is a crook??..

I dont know about him but having an impression he is a good guy.. there may be a dark side that we dont know.

කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:He is a bigger crook than most other guys we have seen hitherto.  Very Happy
Yin-Yang wrote:In a way relevant to the topic;

What do you guys think of this Mr. Nagananda
He sounds having something worth for the betterment of people here; doesn't he?
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Post by Ethical Trader on Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:35 am

Thanks SLS for highlighting all these national issues.

If one looks at current trade union (including student unions) demands, one feels sorry about the future of Sri Lanka.

For example, doctors demanding reduction of taxes only for themselves and cancel Singapore agreement and university students demanding their right to appear for final exams without attending lectures. We never hear of such illogical demands abroad even in less developed countries.
slstock wrote:WORK ETHICS

In Sri Lanka have you seen people at their jobs

a) not smiling or be courteous
b) delaying purposefully their task
c) they do their job as it if they are doing a favor to us
d) wasting time on Phone/Tablet / Facebook while not attending to customers
e) not doing their job, until a bribe is indicated


In many so called developed nations

a) People take their job as a National duty
b) many will smile and be courteous to you
c) they will do their job efficiently
d) if they fail to do their job, calling a Manager or a supervisor will freak them out*
e) If the job doesnt' get done, their co worker will pressure them or say customers are waiting.

* in SL many  Managers and Supervisor seems to be part of the same gang. I read recently about a Senior Executive at Sathosa , selling Ganja to school students . Fantastic) . I read an article connecting  Drug dealers and Under world gangs to
Politicians , who protects them  


So what are your "General" " experiences in Sri Lanka at

a) Government offices
b) Banks
c) Supermarkets
d) or any place to that matter

Someone told me SL Passport office is now starting to be very efficient? Is it true ?
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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by slstock on Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:40 pm

If possible, would like you to see the poll you made based on this and read any comments by others if any?

කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:I ran a Poll on this issue on another site and I am yet to get any disagreement vote on the poll there. Very Happy
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Spot on.
(I have been trying to convince some of the big supermarket chains to allow auditing them by an outside entity and hitherto with no success).

slstock wrote:WORK ETHICS

In Sri Lanka have you seen people at their jobs

a) not smiling or be courteous
b) delaying purposefully their task
c) they do their job as it if they are doing a favor to us
d) wasting time on Phone/Tablet / Facebook while not attending to customers
e) not doing their job, until a bribe is indicated


In many so called developed nations

a) People take their job as a National duty
b) many will smile and be courteous to you
c) they will do their job efficiently
d) if they fail to do their job, calling a Manager or a supervisor will freak them out*
e) If the job doesnt' get done, their co worker will pressure them or say customers are waiting.

* in SL many  Managers and Supervisor seems to be part of the same gang. I read recently about a Senior Executive at Sathosa , selling Ganja to school students . Fantastic) . I read an article connecting  Drug dealers and Under world gangs to
Politicians , who protects them  


So what are your "General" " experiences in Sri Lanka at

a) Government offices
b) Banks
c) Supermarkets
d) or any place to that matter

Someone told me SL Passport office is now starting to be very efficient? Is it true ?

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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:59 pm

No comments and just Agree or Disagree.
Kept it open only for 8 hours and 14 responded and all said Agree. Very Happy
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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by slstock on Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:29 am

කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:No comments and just Agree or Disagree.
Kept it open only for 8 hours and 14 responded and all said Agree. Very Happy

Well, even if it was 5 people , it is more feedback than here right?

Sometimes I really wonder  what I am doing here writing all this stuff for little feedback , Even for a National Cause (  while I am neglecting my personal issues.)  

Day by Day, I am starting to reaffirm  the fact spending 10 hours with 3 like minded is
much gratifying and more effective  than  spending 10 hours with 30 who DO NOT CARE.

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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:12 am

Let us do our parts without thinking of any gratification.
Being able to "flaot one's own bread on water" is a real buddhist to my undersatnding.
slstock wrote:
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:No comments and just Agree or Disagree.
Kept it open only for 8 hours and 14 responded and all said Agree. Very Happy

Well, even if it was 5 people , it is more feedback than here right?

Sometimes I really wonder  what I am doing here writing all this stuff for little feedback , Even for a National Cause (  while I am neglecting my personal issues.)  

Day by Day, I am starting to reaffirm  the fact spending 10 hours with 3 like minded is
much gratifying and more effective  than  spending 10 hours with 30 who DO NOT CARE.
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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by slstock on Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:37 am

Kithsiri,

There is reality.
Then there are words of wisdom.
Then again there is reality.

There are people who do  more they can for multi years.
Then are are people who do less than they can do for 10 min.

In my book,  I honor , recognize and support  one kind more than the other.







කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:Let us do our parts without thinking of any gratification.
Being able to "flaot one's own bread on water" is a real buddhist to my undersatnding.
slstock wrote:
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:No comments and just Agree or Disagree.
Kept it open only for 8 hours and 14 responded and all said Agree. Very Happy

Well, even if it was 5 people , it is more feedback than here right?

Sometimes I really wonder  what I am doing here writing all this stuff for little feedback , Even for a National Cause (  while I am neglecting my personal issues.)  

Day by Day, I am starting to reaffirm  the fact spending 10 hours with 3 like minded is
much gratifying and more effective  than  spending 10 hours with 30 who DO NOT CARE.


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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by slstock on Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:42 am



1)

Whether one is a Lawyer , Engineer, Doctor, Clerk , Bank Officer one needs to understand they are not superior than any other person and they will rely on others at some point in life. I firmly believe no one has a right to demand perks or special privileges based on their profession more than others displaying themselves  as a superior service.


When it comes to Military people , Fire Fighters and any other who risks their lives to defend/save others,  I do have a soft spot. I believe such people needs to be paid risk allowance  and disability care due to nature of the job.


I have respect for the Medical profession  (  but like any other ethical profession).
But  am sure one can argue it is another profession just like any other  , accepting payments. The effect of Medical Profession value might be more in mind due to concept of saving lives.  Yes.  But if someone is already paid higher than the Teacher who educate them,  then lot of other questions can  come into play too.


To me  probably one of the most noble persons out there might be a Weda Mahaththaya who still keeps patients at his house ( patient can be Doctor too right) ,
do not charge them and cures people  (  accepting only Thutu panduru )!




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2)  Talking and Analysing about Uni Students behavior .. will take pages.

When Politics get into Uni's and notion of Free Education is forgotten , chaos happens.

Uni Students have rights and needs. Yes. I too am all for it.

But the question is, are some forgetting their Duty  Vs Rights ?


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3) Trade Unions . I think to fight for justice, Unions are fine.

But issue starts , when Unions abuse their power and demands and dictates things .

Like when Hospital  Unions  rejected a Clocking system ( for a job that needs  lot of punctuality)

Like then 3 Wheel drivers are using /abusing Union power to resist law to add  Meters to 3 Wheerlers.

Why do Governments have to give in to  such abuse done out of National Interest?

It is obvious these people are not caring for National interest but themselves.  
Such Unions or People needs to be dealt with law.


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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by Ethical Trader on Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:13 pm

Unions in the power sector are the strongest in Sri Lanka. They have been able to dictate terms to all the Ministers irrespective of their party.

Engineers union in the CEB forced all the governments so far with success. They were successful in -

a) making the Government pay their payee taxes out of CEB funds when CEB is running at a loss and when all other government servants pay payee taxes,
b) forcing the management to approve high salaries and allowances over all other employees,
c) scuttling the moves to restructure the CEB for better management,
d) dictating terms over future power generation plans of the government,
e) stopping many disciplinary actions against their union leaders,
f) stopping the recovery of losses highlighted in audit reports.

(list is endless and new ones are added regularly)

?Can a country prosper with such idiots all around covering all segments of the economy.
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Post by කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා on Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:40 pm

"National Service" can help greatly to overcome such threats.
Since there is no war situation, the military can be deployed to run such places (than deploying them to decorate shrines).
All we need is one strong national minded leader.
Sadly, none in the horizon yet.
Ethical Trader wrote:Unions in the power sector are the strongest in Sri Lanka. They have been able to dictate terms to all the Ministers irrespective of their party.

Engineers union in the CEB forced all the governments so far with success. They were successful in -

a) making the Government pay their payee taxes out of CEB funds when CEB is running at a loss and when all other government servants pay payee taxes,
b) forcing the management to approve high salaries and allowances over all other employees,
c) scuttling the moves to restructure the CEB for better management,
d) dictating terms over future power generation plans of the government,
e) stopping many disciplinary actions against their union leaders,
f) stopping the recovery of losses highlighted in audit reports.

(list is endless and new ones are added regularly)

?Can a country prosper with such idiots all around covering all segments of the economy.
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Re: Whats ailing Sri Lanka ? Why we are what we are!

Post by Ethical Trader on Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:48 pm

Agree 100%.
කිත්සිරි ද සිල්වා wrote:"National Service" can help greatly to overcome such threats.
Since there is no war situation, the military can be deployed to run such places (than deploying them to decorate shrines).
All we need is one strong national minded leader.
Sadly, none in the horizon yet.
Ethical Trader wrote:Unions in the power sector are the strongest in Sri Lanka. They have been able to dictate terms to all the Ministers irrespective of their party.

Engineers union in the CEB forced all the governments so far with success. They were successful in -

a) making the Government pay their payee taxes out of CEB funds when CEB is running at a loss and when all other government servants pay payee taxes,
b) forcing the management to approve high salaries and allowances over all other employees,
c) scuttling the moves to restructure the CEB for better management,
d) dictating terms over future power generation plans of the government,
e) stopping many disciplinary actions against their union leaders,
f) stopping the recovery of losses highlighted in audit reports.

(list is endless and new ones are added regularly)

?Can a country prosper with such idiots all around covering all segments of the economy.
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