Should CSE be like this? Whose FAULT is it?

serene wrote:

slstock wrote:
Foreign Selling/Buying

For those who are worried about Foreign selling

1) So far to date in this year  :

Foreign Selling is only Rs 2.52 Bil.
( That about US$16 million. Some billionaires will laugh at that amount am sure)
 

Quiz : How much was the Foreign selling in 2011?




2) For past week :

Net Foreign Inflow/Buying : Rs 23 million

Rs.(19,039.2) Millions

slstock wrote:Thanks for taking time to answer a question which will show the reality and keep the discussion going.

serene wrote:

slstock wrote:
Foreign Selling/Buying

For those who are worried about Foreign selling

1) So far to date in this year  :

Foreign Selling is only Rs 2.52 Bil.
( That about US$16 million. Some billionaires will laugh at that amount am sure)
 

Quiz : How much was the Foreign selling in 2011?




2) For past week :

Net Foreign Inflow/Buying : Rs 23 million

Rs.(19,039.2) Millions

Ethical Trader wrote:Thanks SLS. I remember Kith was posting daily foreign buying/selling figures earlier.

slstock wrote:What the hell is wrong with CSE?



Fact 1 :

ASI was 7500+ in Aug 2015 !
Nearly 3 years later , with many companies improving asset values,  
ASI  is 20% down ( when it should be up) and has nearly hit 6000!
ASI is now back at same stage ( 6000+) as March 2016 !

What the hell ?  Pettah  market must be a better investment than CSE right?


To be honest I too was getting dejected about CSE as it has been a real waste of
Investment over the last few years.
Even putting in an FD would bring easy 12%.  



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I think I now know  the answer why this happens.

a) most people who entered CSE forums were people who are new to CSE  and
  only saw the extreme volatility of CSE within the few years of presence

b) many like to make quick money and consider patient investing a waste of opportunity anyway.  
  So with a volatile CSE they will ask why hold shares to lose money  when we can "Anna and Panna"
  Well the sad fact is there weren't too many Anna Panna trading ops even for past few years!
  EVERYONE  is in the soup !


But when valuable shares are at ridiculous prices,
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In Summary:

FED rate hike and world impact is not much at tiny CSE.



HEY WAIT ! But even if this is a world issue, then  how come India/Bangladesh shares market up by 40%/20% .
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RSI can go over 30 again with another day of green.

ADX reversing trend ( it has started already with last green days)  is a good.
Bollinger will close his mouth with another few days of green ( if we want the green without selling that is )


ps : There were several Technical people always stating that Charts never  lie and they are always accurate.
I think during the last 12 or so months none of such came to put out their firm predictions. They disappear when market is in trouble (appear only when market is  in boom).   I think these predictions are more useful if they can do it to help public when in distress.  Not when market is positive and every share is going up. (No this is not attacking anyone but merely stating a  FACT  here. No one should  take personal  )

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1) Stop freaking selling specially your Valuable shares at ridiculous  prices.( some are at 5 year low)
  You will get poorer due to no patience and some cunning person will get richer thank to you.

2) Stop spreading unnecessary market negativity for your selfish gains.
  Political uncertainty my foot. If so why has LFIN being not effected and declared Rs 11 dividend
  and their assets are ever improving. I saw even GREG declared the highest dividend of their life.
  Why has COMB, NDB, SAMP and many other companies performing so well?

3) Let market positivity build based on FACTS. Not Stupid FEARS and negativity.

  How about letting these foreigner do what they are doing in
  India and Bangladesh ( somehow those market are up 20-40% with 2 years )

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4) Don't Buy on Credit ( I have made that mistake)  

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5) If the SL Government cares at all about CSE, let the state Funds starts buying into value shares.
  This is the time for EPF to make killing if they buy at all time low prices and hold for longer term.
  (Not like in 2010 when they buy highest and waste public money!)  



Btw, now that the market started to move up  a bit , start worrying and start selling
your valuable  shares ( some of which still has room fundamentally to run 50-100% maybe).

Then we can drag ASI down again , blame others and complain again to keep this stinking falling cycle going.

spw19721 wrote:Thank You SLS sir for your valuable contribution.This Time I didnt go panic (Actually no need to) as I was in 2015 . Im happy to say I got succeed in averaging down LFIN (118) , REXP (170) , SAMP (290) .

In addition,collected CIND(30) ,HDFC (27), CRL (30) in small quantities.only GRAN(78) & PLC (16.5) shows some relative loss.  

But If recall in 2015-2016, I suffered around 30%,-50% losses holding SFL (22) ,BOGA (28),CHOT(30),TYRE(80) etc..  .

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If CSE dip more , for me no need to panic coz I have 9-10% return  giving cash cows which will give more in coming years. I can utilize those dividends for risky trades .If I lose,no heart attacks , still can sleep well.

Hats off for all experienced writers who taught me to be patient like the ants among locusts.

yellow knife wrote:Yes... Oil price is another factor

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Gold is another with inverse relationship

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Interest rate is another with inverse relationship
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CSE has become attractive.
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Yin-Yang wrote:Looking through the side mirror one year back;
it's good way of learning;
learning by words of wisdom;
learning by mistakes;
learning by experience;
learning by random comments;

Here are some collections of both words of wisdom and random comments;

slstock wrote:What the hell is wrong with CSE?



Fact 1 :

ASI was 7500+ in Aug 2015 !
Nearly 3 years later , with many companies improving asset values,  
ASI  is 20% down ( when it should be up) and has nearly hit 6000!
ASI is now back at same stage ( 6000+) as March 2016 !

What the hell ?  Pettah  market must be a better investment than CSE right?


To be honest I too was getting dejected about CSE as it has been a real waste of
Investment over the last few years.
Even putting in an FD would bring easy 12%.  



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I think I now know  the answer why this happens.

a) most people who entered CSE forums were people who are new to CSE  and
  only saw the extreme volatility of CSE within the few years of presence

b) many like to make quick money and consider patient investing a waste of opportunity anyway.  
  So with a volatile CSE they will ask why hold shares to lose money  when we can "Anna and Panna"
  Well the sad fact is there weren't too many Anna Panna trading ops even for past few years!
  EVERYONE  is in the soup !


But when valuable shares are at ridiculous prices,
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In Summary:

FED rate hike and world impact is not much at tiny CSE.



HEY WAIT ! But even if this is a world issue, then  how come India/Bangladesh shares market up by 40%/20% .
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RSI can go over 30 again with another day of green.

ADX reversing trend ( it has started already with last green days)  is a good.
Bollinger will close his mouth with another few days of green ( if we want the green without selling that is )


ps : There were several Technical people always stating that Charts never  lie and they are always accurate.
I think during the last 12 or so months none of such came to put out their firm predictions. They disappear when market is in trouble (appear only when market is  in boom).   I think these predictions are more useful if they can do it to help public when in distress.  Not when market is positive and every share is going up. (No this is not attacking anyone but merely stating a  FACT  here. No one should  take personal  )

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1) Stop freaking selling specially your Valuable shares at ridiculous  prices.( some are at 5 year low)
  You will get poorer due to no patience and some cunning person will get richer thank to you.

2) Stop spreading unnecessary market negativity for your selfish gains.
  Political uncertainty my foot. If so why has LFIN being not effected and declared Rs 11 dividend
  and their assets are ever improving. I saw even GREG declared the highest dividend of their life.
  Why has COMB, NDB, SAMP and many other companies performing so well?

3) Let market positivity build based on FACTS. Not Stupid FEARS and negativity.

  How about letting these foreigner do what they are doing in
  India and Bangladesh ( somehow those market are up 20-40% with 2 years )

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4) Don't Buy on Credit ( I have made that mistake)  

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5) If the SL Government cares at all about CSE, let the state Funds starts buying into value shares.
  This is the time for EPF to make killing if they buy at all time low prices and hold for longer term.
  (Not like in 2010 when they buy highest and waste public money!)  



Btw, now that the market started to move up  a bit , start worrying and start selling
your valuable  shares ( some of which still has room fundamentally to run 50-100% maybe).

Then we can drag ASI down again , blame others and complain again to keep this stinking falling cycle going.

One thing I really liked in SLS's post is "Don't buy on credit"

Another thing we could have learnt is; being empathetic with investors who have already in paper losses and asking them not to be panic will have only short term soothing effect. The reality is reality regardless of which glasses we might wear.

yellow knife wrote:Oh Ying-Yang, just saw your post.

Certain shares are very attractive now. We have gone through long bear phases and the strategy was to collect slowly.

Its repeating again. What was attractive has become more attractive.

So you're another kind of speculator?

xmart wrote:Chaos and Order is the nature of every market. I won't see this as anyone's fault but circumstances which we signed up for when investing in immature markets like CSE. even NASDAQ is not immune to risk factors.

xmart wrote:
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what im intended to do is to be in the right side with right price.

Yin-Yang wrote:Looking through the side mirror one year back;
it's good way of learning;
learning by words of wisdom;
learning by mistakes;
learning by experience;
learning by random comments;

Here are some collections of both words of wisdom and random comments;

PANTOMATH wrote:
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No one can exactly predict prices of shares for a given period.

Investors should learn the difference between price and the value.What SLS was talking about is value of a share.You are talking about price of a share.Those are two different things dude.

The discrepancy of the two values is the edge value investors are looking for.

serene wrote:Scrutinise the wicket and play each ball at its merits.
It's all about the how you play the next ball. Nothing else counts.
True ths balls you faced earlier would have tamed you and you can percieve whats on offering, the wicket might be easing off after the sun shine; and the bowlers might have get tired.
After having battling hard and whithered away the moisture and the Swing of the ball, play the best possible shot you can  ever play according to your game plan.Be it whether Test, One Day or T 20.
But keep it mind that It's all sbout the next ball and the shot you play.